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aww thanks ❤
3:29 PM
I can't keep it in: the name "tulpabug" is just cute
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@Tulpabug qt
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Oh I just realized this isn't lounge. Oops.
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@glitchthe3rd Curious - how so, and have there been any attempts at diagnosis?
5:06 PM
As far as I am aware, autism is caused by a physical difference in the brain, making that functionally impossible - perhaps it would be expressed differently, with different coping methods being used, but you'll have to excuse me if I do find it hard to believe that there is no effect of a literal physical brain difference on tulpas using the same brain.
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Autism is so broad and badly defined I wouldn't be surprised if it was the case that some forms of it could be "cured". Although it may be more that those things don't deserve the diagnosis of autism, either.
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Indeed.
5:11 PM
That said, if i recall correctly, autism is typically a physical brain anomaly - though I am also aware that there were quite a few excessive diagnoses of autism (and ADD/ADHD) for awhile - or even now, I'm not sure.
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If I might guess, tulpa might let a person abandon a lot of the baggage and fear they have around others, and kinda let them tackle social situations from a fresh angle. This would help a lot with stuff like confidence, stammering and stuttering, and so on. Alternatively, because tulpa speak mostly inside your head, the issues may not emerge until a person decides to switch. Those would make the tulpa "not" have autism even if it isn't cured.
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Hm. That would make sense.
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glitchthe3rd 5/10/2018 5:37 PM
@SkyeNet I was diagnosed as a child, I have difficulty with social interactions but none of my tulpas do
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RosySpex ΘΔ 5/10/2018 5:45 PM
Can confirm, he has trouble recognizing social cues sometimes. I think his Tulpas help him with social interaction.
5:47 PM
..I should probably say most of the time. I live with him.
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Lets be honest here, all tulpas have autism.
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I can certainly see tulpas helping, or improving things - but I would ask, have you switched and tested this? Are the cues noticed in post? Or could it perhaps be due to differing perspectives?
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What do you mean noticed in post
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Post production
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Also if you have autism, maybe your tulpas do act autistic as hell and you're just too autist to notice that they act weird.
5:53 PM
That's my theory.
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"In post" as in "afterwards".
5:53 PM
Pre/post - before/after.
5:54 PM
That is possible, @Beckett, though I am making the assumption that glitch is saying the tulpas either are saying "I noticed that cue" afterwards, or are noticing different cues than he does.
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I saw a gaming channel made by a pony tulpa, she plays a lot of Minecraft. I could kind of tell there was a little bit of tism there
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I will also point out... simply lack of noticing social cues isn't the totality of autism by any means.
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Send a link to the channel.
5:55 PM
That sounds hilarious.
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Tulpa is the mental entity, created and living in the human's mind, but with my own free will, memories, emotions and feelings. Who Am I? giggling Yep, you...
5:57 PM
She's kind of seert tbh
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Idk, like I don't know what causes autism, and I'm too lazy to look it up, honestly, but if it's the brain being different, and your tulpas live in the same brain, right.
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Oh. It's Melian.
5:57 PM
That would explain it.
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It only makes sense that like
5:57 PM
the tulpas lives in the brain that is autistic
5:57 PM
or something
5:57 PM
oh god melian
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Or, at least I would assume such based on the channel description.
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This isn't melian.
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I honestly can't think of anyone else that would type out "giggling" in a youtube channel description.
5:58 PM
Alright.
5:58 PM
...hm. I think further speculation about the channel might be better done elsewhere.
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This voice is too annoying.
5:59 PM
Well.
5:59 PM
Tulpas are really cringy most of the time, winter.
5:59 PM
so plenty of them would because hehehe I'm a girl.
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...fair point.
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Are they using a voice changer?
6:00 PM
Is that why its so roboty?
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I did some research, apparently personality disorders are not caused by physiological difference like autism, so I think if you had one it would be likely your tulpa doesn't have it and would thus be able to help with it. a lot of people in this community say they have anxiety, depression, etc and their tulpa helps with it. I think these people actually have personality disorders. just a theory anyways
6:01 PM
Personality disorders (PD) are a class of mental disorders characterized by enduring maladaptive patterns of behavior, cognition, and inner experience, exhibited across many contexts and deviating from those accepted by the individual's culture. ...
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So - to be clear, there are differing degrees of mental issues. Personality disorders are one flavor - however, depression and anxiety can have very real physiological impacts/causes.
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@Beckett Yes
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Yes, depression is caused by hormone imbalances if I'm not mistaken, but depressive personality disorders (which is different) doesn't seem to be. Theres some overlap between the symptoms of personality disorders and other mental disorders
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Pretty sure that autism isnt a personality disorder
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It isn't.
6:07 PM
There is more to it than that.
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Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a highly prevalent neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by impaired social communication and restricted and repetitive behaviors (RRBs). Over the past decade, neuroimaging studies have provided considerable ...
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Never said autism was one
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Oh, well we were talking about some autistic dude and his tulpas
6:09 PM
so, I assumed we were still talking about that
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 12:05 AM
When you're in your wonderland what perspective do you take? Also, this may be a personal question, but what's your wonderland like? (edited)
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Are you asking just anyone?
12:15 AM
For me it looks like it's from a third person POV for all of us. (edited)
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 12:16 AM
I'm asking anyone, it's an open ended question. I'm very curious.
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Also, my wonderland is a giant field with critters, and a lake. There is a castle, but it's not consistent, so the rooms always change, and when we walk into a door in the castle, we can just say "It'll be X room" and it is.
12:17 AM
Everything is very vivid.
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 12:18 AM
Interesting... So you're watching your tulpa(s) and yourself as well? (edited)
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I am a tulpa but yeah
12:18 AM
It's like a camera and we cant control the angles well. (edited)
12:19 AM
I am sure you could learn other POVs, but wonderland is kind boring, so we only use it for my host to go on dates with his GF
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 12:20 AM
I (mostly) freely change the POV. But then again, despite the largely open space, me and Nin9 are typically within the same perspective so there's rarely a reason to change the POV too much.
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Yeah, I would need to practice to do that.
12:22 AM
But, again, no need or desire to.
12:22 AM
It's only used for dates, which only happen like twice a month or so, and last a few hours.
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 12:22 AM
My own wonderland is, as mentioned, an open space. Typically it looks kind of like the Windows XP wallpaper with green fields and hills and flowers dotting about. However the landscape changes as needed.
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So, eh. We dont use it alot
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 12:25 AM
Me and Nin9 are typically mentally dynamic. My job demands I sit still a lot so we get creative and toss up a lot. Although she's been bothering me for the past two days.
12:26 AM
Nin9 has been sentient since before she took form and doesn't take well to puppeting but she's been... Listless lately, not moving around unless I make her. I guess I spent a weeks worth of excitement in two days when she woke up for a bit.
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okay dude
12:27 AM
thats cool as fuck
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 12:28 AM
What?
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I'm just teling you that's cool, man (edited)
12:28 AM
I am happy for you
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 12:29 AM
That she woke up or that I can break down and rebuild my wonderland?
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Both, I guess
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 12:30 AM
Well, thank you either way. I really was quite excited when she woke up. I don't smile a lot but it had me grinning like a miner when they strike gold
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That's good
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Interrobang System 5/11/2018 2:59 AM
{What’s a good way to keep control of the body when possessing, along with making movements feel even the slightest bit alien to hostie? Since she feels like she’s executing all the shit, she slowly regained control every damn time...}
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Jack o' Nin9's 5/11/2018 3:00 AM
Assert dominance over your body while it's possessed by grasping onto ice, biting your tongue, furiously staring at yourself in the mirror while doing the above.
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are you trying to switch? because possession by itself doesn't imply the host loses control, assuming they're still fronting
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Interrobang System 5/11/2018 3:03 AM
{We’re tryin to switch eventually yes}
3:03 AM
{I’m currently able to possess with ease, but switching is still impossible}
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if you're controlling the body and feelings its senses then that's all that needs to be done on your end (to my knowledge), the other half of switching is your host dissociating out
3:05 AM
are you able to co-front?
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Interrobang System 5/11/2018 3:05 AM
{Yeah}
3:05 AM
{Zoey can’t remove herself from the boys tho}
3:05 AM
{body}
3:05 AM
{fuckin autocorrect}
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